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 WHO IS IN THE FINAL COFFIN?!?! -Naruto-

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PostSubject: WHO IS IN THE FINAL COFFIN?!?! -Naruto-   Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:52 pm

So ya post who you think is in the final coffin that Kabuto revealed to Madara which made him shit himself. I've been wondering FOREVER!!!

Also, I found this speculation online which is a good possibility:

"And here is my main theory to what happened here�.

what if the person that kabuto summoned was a person that everyone thought (except madara) was still alive?!?!?!?

better yet� what if it was the water daimyo!?!?!?

ok let me explain.

zetsu or madara kills the water daimyo�zetsu uses his special cloning abilities to clone him�then they control all of the water country including Kirigakure and with akatsuki, kabutos team and kirigakure, madara could possibly wipe out the other nations

one of the reasons i thought this was when all of the daimyos had a meeting, the water daimyo(zetsu) was the only one that was hesistant about the alliance between nations against the akatsuki.

another reason why i thought this was because madara was supposedly mizukage and that sort of ties in with the theory�.somehow lol

resurrecting the water daimyo would shock madara because he wouldn�t expect kabuto to know of the daimyos death.

kabuto also said �dont worry i wont tell anyone�. meaning that he wont tell anyone about the death of the water daimyo, because if any of the other daimyos found out, madaras plans would all turn to shit. which is why madara agreed to kabutos offer.

I do not think it is the sage of the six paths, coz if it was�kabuto wouldn�t need to consult madara about handing over sasuke, he would just get the sage to annihilate madara and get sasuke. where as resurrecting the water daimyo would cause madara to be shocked and accept kabutos offer"

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PostSubject: Re: WHO IS IN THE FINAL COFFIN?!?! -Naruto-   Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:59 am

Could Possibly be Madara's brother, combat wise he is pretty useless as Madara has his eyes. Madar would be shocked that Kabuto would have his brother's body for the jutsu.

However, it could be many people, I like the Water Daimyo Idea though.
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PostSubject: Re: WHO IS IN THE FINAL COFFIN?!?! -Naruto-   Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:35 am

Sasuke has itachi's eyes but he was brought back and still has them. Same with madara taking nagato's rinnengan, he still had both.

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PostSubject: Re: WHO IS IN THE FINAL COFFIN?!?! -Naruto-   Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:21 am

You ever consider that Madara achieved Immortality simiular to the way Orochi did. You know ditched his original body took over another body. So the body in coffin could be his original body. That way if they loose He looses the battle Kabuto brings him back to life under his controll.

Makes a little sense. The reason he hasn't been able to use it is because Madra's soul is inside a new body. Plus that would explain why Madara never shows his face now but in all the flash backs and the statues you can, so we all ready know what he's supposed to look like.
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PostSubject: Re: WHO IS IN THE FINAL COFFIN?!?! -Naruto-   Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:35 am

Well Don't know if anyone will read this but.....BUT.....I want to go on record as saying I was .... RIGHT MUTHA F******
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PostSubject: Re: WHO IS IN THE FINAL COFFIN?!?! -Naruto-   Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:25 pm

lol, I thought that Madara was in the final coffin, too, but I dunno if Tobi (can't call him somehow else) is the real Madara... I believe he is somebody we don't expect like Madara's younger brother (and he reveals that he stole Madara's eyes for himself and that the story is repeated with another Uchiha taking his older brother's eyes for himself) or he could be Orochimaru (who somehow got to another body rofl).
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PostSubject: Re: WHO IS IN THE FINAL COFFIN?!?! -Naruto-   Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:15 am

lol wow
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PostSubject: Re: WHO IS IN THE FINAL COFFIN?!?! -Naruto-   Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:24 pm

Yea I'm ganna have to say Tobi isn't Madara either. I do have another thought though.


Tobi = Obito

His only eye that it shows is the opposite of Kakashi's, meaning they could be one set.

Both Kakashi's eye and Tobi's eye alows for teleporting. I just believe Kakashi has no clue where it takes things so he's to scared to absorb himself where Tobi has learned to move around the world with it.

and my final thought is that Tobi is one extra "o" away from Obito......
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PostSubject: Re: WHO IS IN THE FINAL COFFIN?!?! -Naruto-   Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:45 pm

To be honest I don't think its Obito because he was still a child when he perished and when he fought the forth he was an adult not to mention Obito was like the black sheep of the Uchiha clan mad weak and what not and everyone knows the power of the fourth so for him to fight with the fourth to a sort of a stand still he must of been really really hiding his strength. I'm thinking its another Uchiha that's been out of the spot light.
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PostSubject: Re: WHO IS IN THE FINAL COFFIN?!?! -Naruto-   Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:36 pm

Thought: What if it's not an Uchiha at all? >.> Just some guy that stole a sharingan like Kakashi.

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PostSubject: Re: WHO IS IN THE FINAL COFFIN?!?! -Naruto-   Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:45 pm

Actually, the Obito theory is the best one. There are facts that are supporting this.

-First, Tobi's name is an anagram of Obito without an O.
-Secondly, nobody ever saw Obito dying.
-Thirdly, he has the same hair as Obito.
-Fourthly, he is also an Uchiha so he had easier access to information about Madara, thus he decided to imitate him.
-Fifthly, Obito said once: "Those that break the rules and regulations are scum. But those who abandon their comrades are worse than scum! If I'm going to be called scum either way, I'd rather break the rules! And if that's not being a proper shinobi, then I'll destroy that idea!". He could have felt abandoned by Kakashi because they left when he asked them too and they didn't save him.
-Sixthly, that would connect him with Naruto somehow. If he really is Obito, he was in the same team as his father and Kakashi.

Also, Tobi can't be Madara simply because when he was ressurected he questioned about Impure World Ressurection
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PostSubject: Re: WHO IS IN THE FINAL COFFIN?!?! -Naruto-   Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:49 pm

I don't remember Tobi fighting the forth ..... but I don't remember a lot so could have happened.

but as far as Obito being the weak one, That could just mean he pushed himself later on to catch up you know. Its been some time since he was "crushed" by that stone.
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PostSubject: Re: WHO IS IN THE FINAL COFFIN?!?! -Naruto-   Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:24 pm

The whole name thing and all that make sense, ya, but what would Obito's reason be? What's the method to his madness? Max said feeling abandoned by Kakashi, why not just go after Kakashi then? I seriously feel like it'll be someone brand spanking new that all the old characters remember from their childhood but we've never seen. The 4th's brother maybe? It'd explain how "Madara/Tobi" knew about Naruto's birth and what not. I think it'll be someone close to Naruto's family that he never knew about. Just saying.

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PostSubject: Re: WHO IS IN THE FINAL COFFIN?!?! -Naruto-   Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:37 pm

Obito's Motive?

RIN

It was Obito's last request and Kakashi failed... You know naruto was originally about Kakashi but the creator decided that Kakashi was to blain to be the main character.... In a way it all makes sense. And how he recovered? Zetsu, Kakuzu. Those two people right there. Zetsu can touch someone and make a perfect copy of them right? Well maybe he did this too Obito and had Kakuzu replace his destroyed half.
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PostSubject: Re: WHO IS IN THE FINAL COFFIN?!?! -Naruto-   Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:24 pm

Once again, too personal. There would be no point in taking over the world, just kill Kakashi. Still not seeing it being Obito.

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PostSubject: Re: WHO IS IN THE FINAL COFFIN?!?! -Naruto-   Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:32 pm

Tobi isn't Madara, it was shown in the latest Naruto chapter that he was brought back with that Impure World Resurrection thingy technique. I think that Tobi could be like a long lost brother of Madara or something that took over his name. o-o Just saying, they might try and to throw some "plot twist" like that in there.
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PostSubject: Re: WHO IS IN THE FINAL COFFIN?!?! -Naruto-   Wed Oct 19, 2011 3:33 am

Kishimoto said he wanted naruto to end with 0 questions being seen after its ending. Finally explaining how Rin died would end the discussion right there.
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PostSubject: Re: WHO IS IN THE FINAL COFFIN?!?! -Naruto-   Wed Oct 19, 2011 3:32 pm

Tobi fought the 4th when the 9 tails attacked Konoha. That was way to close to Obito's Death for him to be a full fledged adult. Also it has to be a Uchiha as he would need tremendous amount of chakra to be able to use the eye without tiring and seeing as he used mad powerful tech like Izanagi he is def an Uchiha. But then again since the creator did say no plot holes at the end it might be Obito which would be a wtf moment for me lol.
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PostSubject: Re: WHO IS IN THE FINAL COFFIN?!?! -Naruto-   Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:42 pm

Izanagi doesn't require that much chakra because he just sacrifices the eye. Tobi has never used a mangekyou technique so ya he very well may not be an Uchiha. I think there are 1 of 2 possibilities here.

1. Brand new wtf character moment.
2. Somehow related to Madara.

Adding to what Vix said, there's almost no way Tobi could be Obito. And I've been saying this since the beginning, what would Obito's reason be? He sacrificed himself to save Kakashi and Rin and willingly gave Kakashi his eye. Even if he hated Kakashi for some reason, he'd go after him, not the world. Besides, Obito has relations with Kakashi, not Naruto. This is all about Naruto and his life.

PS. For all you Kakashi fan people like me, sadly, I can almost guarantee you he will die v.v It's a lesson of the entire Naruto story, the old must die to make room for the new. IE: Jiraya.

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PostSubject: Re: WHO IS IN THE FINAL COFFIN?!?! -Naruto-   Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:05 pm

Madara ftw. he was completely badass during the fight against the SA
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PostSubject: Re: WHO IS IN THE FINAL COFFIN?!?! -Naruto-   Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:42 pm

I just thought of something myself....In the latest chapter, it says that they receive Rinnegan when they go beyond the Sharingan. That's why only Rinnegan and Sharingan users can read the tablet. I'm thinking that the Madara thought to have died back when he fought the First Hokage, the Madara with the mask and Madara that was just brought back....They are related through the Rennigan as different bodies. The Madara thought to have died from First Hokage = Madara just revived/brought back. I'm sure we all knew that. Or they may be separate bodies. But the Madara with the mask may be one of the real Madara's 6 paths. Its just a thought.
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PostSubject: Re: WHO IS IN THE FINAL COFFIN?!?! -Naruto-   Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:57 pm

To be honest I think that its not fair that Mandara got the Rinnegan in addition to the Sharigan like really. Wtf...it makes those eyes even more broken. To be honest when I heard pain was from the Uzumaki clan I got mad hype because I thought the Rinnegan was like a genetic thing from them which would be epic but now its just like Ooooh i have rinnegan and sharingan spam =.=
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PostSubject: Re: WHO IS IN THE FINAL COFFIN?!?! -Naruto-   Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:34 pm

I agree xD Though, I also cant leave out that it could possibly be Obito aswell....Ever thought of it like this - Tobito. Its basically pig-latin when you take out the extra o. We say that Obito is dead. I also recall Zetsu I think it was that called Tobi a kid when they came by to grab Sasori's ring. That could mean it was/is Obito still at a young age.
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PostSubject: Re: WHO IS IN THE FINAL COFFIN?!?! -Naruto-   Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:39 pm


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PostSubject: Re: WHO IS IN THE FINAL COFFIN?!?! -Naruto-   Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:19 pm

Le GASP! and they call Tobi fake mandara rofl.
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